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"The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock" (jukesjukesjukes) 08/23/2017 at 15:14 • Filed to: None

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The Challenger is really has a dual clutch transmission.

benjrblant > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:18

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Woah, two clutch pedals!

PlasteredClover > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:23

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Please tell me this is Photoshop. It hurts my eyes

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:23

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Instructions unclear.

Accidentally executed a wonderful handbrake turn trying to shift to third.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > PlasteredClover 08/23/2017 at 15:24

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Nope, the Challenger really has a foot operated parking brake.

PlasteredClover > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:26

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That doesn’t look safe, or maybe thats just me.

EL_ULY > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:33

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5 pedals if you count the dead pedal

BeaterGT > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 08/23/2017 at 15:34

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And now facing traffic.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:36

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How the hell are you supposed to pull away on a hill without riding the clutch!?

CobraJoe > PlasteredClover 08/23/2017 at 15:39

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I’ve owned one car with a foot operated parking brake, and my friend owns another. It’s not dangerous. You’re more likely to hit the normal brakes when shifting than the parking brake.

The only odd thing about it was that the parking brake release isn’t quite as handy as a handbrake.

CobraJoe > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 08/23/2017 at 15:42

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Quick feet.

It’s not hard, you get used to it. However, a responsive throttle and a predictable clutch are very helpful.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 15:50

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While I’ve got nothing against foot operated parking brakes, I just can’t believe a modern car actually has one. In my old 99 Escalade, the foot actuated parking brake was acceptable only because the GMT400 platform it was built on dated to 1988. Even my new truck has an electronically actuated parking brake.

bhtooefr > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 08/23/2017 at 15:55

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Use the torque. Which is technically riding the clutch, but... I never do the handbrake thing (and every manual I’ve owned has had a handbrake), I just slightly come off the clutch pedal just enough to barely bite, and come off the brake onto the gas in one swift motion.

Or, really, it’s probably got enough torque that you could leave off the “onto the gas” part of that. Plenty of American pickups did it that way.

bhtooefr > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 08/23/2017 at 15:56

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My Prius has one. It’s cheap (unlike an electronic parking brake), low-maintenance (or rather, maintenance is easy, unlike an electronic parking brake), effective, and makes more room in the center console.

PlasteredClover > CobraJoe 08/23/2017 at 15:57

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I got some big ass feet, that pedal box would be a nightmare for me.

deekster_caddy > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 08/23/2017 at 16:12

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two pedals so you can heel-toe easier!

CalzoneGolem > CobraJoe 08/23/2017 at 16:14

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You can do handbrake turns with these if you’re really committed to it and your have a decent return spring.

CobraJoe > PlasteredClover 08/23/2017 at 16:19

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Probably not as bad as you think. I wear size 13 shoes myself, and the manual converted ‘88 Thunderbird I used to own was no problem.

I’m guessing that the Challenger has a much larger pedal box than the Thunderbird does. Plus, that picture above makes it look like the parking brake pedal is much closer to the clutch than it probably is in real life, and it probably sits higher when released too. My Tbird required a much higher lift to hit the parking brake than the clutch. After all, they wouldn’t put the dead pedal right under the parking brake pedal if there wasn’t room for your foot.

It really was never a worry that I would hit the parking brake instead of the clutch. The only problem I had was that I’d almost always grab for the hand brake lever that wasn’t there.

CobraJoe > CalzoneGolem 08/23/2017 at 16:20

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When I was a kid, I used to use the parking brake pedal to launch pebbles. Return spring shouldn’t be a problem.

Though I always used power to spin the car around, not the handbrake. The V8 RWD combination kind of makes handbrake turns irrelevant...

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > bhtooefr 08/23/2017 at 16:23

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It’s not like electronic parking brakes are expensive. Rockauto shows an entire caliper new, OEM Ford caliper with the electronic actuator costing $120. I would imagine that small, electric motor on each rear caliper is considerably lighter than a pedal assembly and cables+hardware would be.  As for mechanical ones being low-maintenance, more than once I had to find someone with a lighter I could borrow in a ski area parking lot after cables froze on a couple of my trucks back in the day.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > bhtooefr 08/23/2017 at 16:27

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Yeah, I was taught to always pull away using your handbrake and riding the clutch is just lazy driving.

bhtooefr > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 08/23/2017 at 16:29

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You’re a European, I assume?

Yeah, in the US, where we have bigger and torquier engines, it’s not really “lazy” to just come off the clutch and let the engine torque take care of things. (And, you’re not exactly riding it for long, anyway, doing it that way.)

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > bhtooefr 08/23/2017 at 16:55

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No, I live in New Jersey. When you pull away like that you invariably roll back a bit, so if someone isn’t paying attention and are too close they can rear end you.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > CobraJoe 08/23/2017 at 17:00

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Eh, idk man; have to scratch my head at the person who thought that better than a hand brake. Although I’m thinking it was a bean counter saving money by not having to worry about changing e-brake mechanisms based on the transmission because a foot brake is fine if you have an auto.

CobraJoe > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 08/23/2017 at 17:09

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Almost definitely a cost saving reason. Either they didn’t want to re-engineer the trans tunnel and interior to allow for a hand brake or they didn’t want to figure out how to incorporate an electronic parking brake.

The Challenger isn’t the first to have the foot parking brake on a manual either. The 1st gen CTS-V is one of the more famous for having the foot pedal on a manual only trim level.

However, I can say from experience that owning a car with a manual and a foot parking brake isn’t that weird. I’d often grab for the handbrake that wasn’t there when parking, but that was the only real annoyance. Rolling back on hills isn’t even a problem once you get used to shifting from brake to gas quickly, the roll back I had was less than some automatics on steeper inclines.

TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. > CobraJoe 08/23/2017 at 17:15

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Probably my biggest issue with them is the roll back, my friends mom got rear ended that way because she rolled back and someone was to close and pulling forward.

CobraJoe > TheBloody, Oppositelock lives on in our shitposts. 08/23/2017 at 17:23

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I doubt I roll back more than a 2-3 inches, even on some pretty steep hills. It’s all about getting the clutch to bite and the engine to provide some power before gravity can pull you too far. It’s a great skill to have if you like to drive manuals.

If someone rear ends you when you roll back that little, then they were probably going to rear end you anyways.